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San Francisco consistently comes up in reviews as a city that is overwhelmingly expensive. Rent, food, parking, and utilities can cost upwards of $6,000 to $8,000 monthly even for frugal lifestyles. Secure living comfortably seems achievable only at household incomes above $150,000 per year. Multiple reviewers mention that cost of living is misrepresented and underestimated.
The homelessness crisis is a recurring issue raised, with tent encampments, drug use, and aggressive behavior now spread far beyond the historically troubled areas. Safety concerns are also widespread, from frequent car break-ins to a visible increase in robberies, leading people to avoid going out at night in many areas.
Many highlight the loss of San Francisco’s former cultural richness. Artists, musicians, and other creatives have largely left due to affordability problems, and tech workers now dominate the social landscape, creating a generally isolated or work-focused atmosphere. Social opportunities and nightlife are considered limited or unfulfilling.
Despite its remaining physical beauty and reliable internet, most reviewers feel San Francisco has declined due to bad policies, poor safety, and lack of community. There's a shared sentiment that unless you're deep in the tech industry or earning very high income, the downsides outweigh the appeal.
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I just came back after 12 years, last time I lived in SF for 3 months in 2012. Back then it was a walkable and clean and fun, pretty safe city. The only place back then that you'd avoid was the Tenderloin. There was homeless but they actually weren't aggressive. There wasn't much robberies either.
San Francisco in 2024 is very different, as you've probably seen from social media. The homeless problem has grown a lot since then, and they're not just clustered in the Tenderloin, they're all over the city doing Fentanyl and the famous "leaning over" when they are high.
Robberies since COVID has exponentially grown. There's robberies on stores like Apple and Nike and I could see a 24/7 police presence now outside their stores with police inside the store even. If you park your car in SF, you will get the window smashed and the stuff taken out of. Criminals have radio sensors to detect any Bluetooth/WiFi signals to see if your car has valuables.
SF recommends keeping the car windows open so criminals can easily get in without smashing your window. The fact that that's official policy, is just insane.
I have to admit, you walk parts of SF, like the residential parts of Mission away from the main streets, and San Francisco is beautiful like it was in 2012. Beautiful trees, flowers, plants on the sidewalks, beautiful cute colored houses.
But why even be here when the most people important in tech having left San Francisco now?
- VCs are in Sand Hill Road, not SF
- Elon Musk just moved X/Twitter to Texas
- Stripe left San Francisco because of the crazy tax on every single payment
- Startup founders can now fly in to raise money, then work remotely from anywhere else
There is a really burgeoning AI founder scene in SF right now. But most of them are just inside their homes or offices and hardcore coding all day. So what's the point of being in SF? There's smart tech people yes but the really successful ones live South of SF in Silicon Valley where it's safer.
San Francisco is a beautiful city lost to bad policy. Maybe it'll make a comeback at some point. But not in 2024.
9 months ago
How did SF get scored #98 on Nomad score? I agree with most of the reviews posted here. I generally work from home, but we recently rented a small conference room for a meeting. It was $250 per hour.. (yes Per Hour... no typos here).
3 years ago
I've been living in SF since 2014 and I have to say Cost of Living is misrepresented. It's a lot more expensive now (2020) than posted. 1-bdr in center is $3,500-$4,000 + $200-$300 for parking + $100-$200 for utilities. Almost impossible to find month-to-month rent, so this is for 1-year lease. Coffee for two + a pastry is easily $20. Dinner for two never less than $50, unless it's fast food (+20% tips are expected) and if you want actually something good it's at least $100 for two. Airbnb is $150+ for a room, god know how much for a whole place. We've been living rather frugally, and our total bill a month is $6,000-$8,000 (we almost never go out and have our own car). I would not recommend living here unless your income is AT LEAST $150,000/year (for basic). We started feel comfortable with our expenses only when our total income hit $300,000. In terms of safety, it's really really bad. We live on a quiet street, but we have cars broken-in right under our window literally every week. I (female) don't go out alone after dark. And that's given that our place is one of the safest (South Beach) and quietest in the central part of the city.
5 years ago
Considering California cities, it’s a nice option to be a Nomad but very very pricey and full of big city issues.
I would highly recommend take a look around the cities in Silicon Valley: Palo Alto, San Jose, etc. because the offer of coworking places is very good. Although they could be as expensive as SF. Palo Alto was my favorite place.
5 years ago
Lived there for 5 month on a contract project in one IT company, With my monthly income of $3,400 it was disgustingly hard to have a normal lifestyle. The city is also very dirty, specifically the Mission. Would not recommend moving there as an expat.
6 years ago
A mixture of piss, weed, unwashed nerdy men, overpriced reality estate, passive-aggressiveness, homeless people and freaks
6 years ago
When I arrived in San Francisco in 2002, I could afford to split a 2 bedroom apartment on Haight Street right across from beautiful Buena Vista Park while making $15/hr as an architecture intern in North Beach. The city has changed completely since then. All my artist and musician friends have long since moved to Oakland and then to Los Angeles and other locations where the living is good but cost is much lower. Now SF is swarming with tech nerds in plaid shirts who add nothing to what was once a vibrant artistic community. Also, the homeless and druggie problem has gone off the charts. Don't even get me started on traffic and tourists. SF used to be a gem of a city. Now, at best, it is a place from which to base your work while you live far far away. I'm embarking on a chapter of digital nomadism myself, in just a couple of days!
6 years ago
The other two reviews are spot-on. I've been living here for 6 years and it's terrible. Nothing but nerds with no social skills, and trust me even the people working at top tech companies are struggling financially. You have legit homeless towns in some parts of the city, where you see 50-100 tents with homeless people. Some of them even have desks and BBQ grills. This is not a good place anymore and hasn't been for some time. Don't believe the hype.
6 years ago
Beautiful location but it's just way too expensive. You need to work full time at a tech company here to really afford it. It's also quite small. The divide between rich and poor is obscene, including a lot of homeless and many people asking for money all over. The tech workers who dominate the transplant crowd that you'll be around are mostly workaholic spoiled privileged people full of themselves, not the type I enjoy hanging out with. All the artsy, alternative, and activist types the city used to be known for either live in Oakland or left. The gender ratio is way too heavy on single males, so good luck getting a date, let alone a long term relationship, if you're a straight guy. Obviously, Internet speeds are great, plenty of spots to work from. Nightlife is pretty lackluster as you can imagine.
7 years ago
One of the worst places I have ever lived. Cost of living is horrible and living there makes no sense unless you want to work 100% of your time. Save your time and money and live somewhere where there is actual sense of community. I was able to afford it there, but it still didn't made any sense.
7 years ago