charliekav 2mo

Hi

charliekav 2mo

Hoping to get your folks POV

- Currently employed by UK entity, but been fully nomadic for the last 12m.
- Spending time in EU, but not anywhere longer than 90D
- Hoping to optimise tax situation without needing to spend too long somewhere
- Wanting to move to Portugal mid next year, looking to optimise between now and then

charliekav 2mo

Any thoughts?

clouedoc 2mo

What is your nationality?

charliekav 2mo

igddtxmxcm , UK, German and New Zealand

clouedoc 2mo

You have 3 nationalities ?

charliekav 2mo

Yes I have 3

p3dr0n 2mo

question is what is your tax residency?

charliekav 2mo

UK atm

p3dr0n 2mo

not much you can do really, get your tax residency elsewhere and renounce UK one

p3dr0n 2mo

technically you could renounce your UK tax residency and become Tax Resident Nowhere until you get your next tax residency by ie staying in Portugal for 180days

p3dr0n 2mo

however you loose all the protections of tax treaties and you will probably get taxed under Source-Based Taxation

p3dr0n 2mo

my advice would be getting two tax advisors in source and destination country and do it through them especially if you have ties in UK, they are very strict about this

alexshepilo 2mo

noone?

chrisnatterer 2mo

some of the most difficult taxes to avoid

charliekav 2mo

Thanks a lot for this mate

charliekav 2mo

Gonna go down the Dubai path

paul040 2mo

So if youre nit a tax resident, you pay 1% georgian + your home tax? Or how would that work

paul040 2mo

I'll be in SAm from September and that sounds like something i'd love to do. What do i need, can you recommend a guide?

franlitvay 2mo

Of course, glad to help! Birth certificate and criminal records (apostilled) will be the most important docs!

boris_k 2mo

Yes. If you are a tax resident in your home country. Depending on the nationality, it's possible not to be a tax resident anywhere (that has been my case for a few years, for example).

cmin764 2mo

Usually you deal with two levels of taxes. First is corporate (on profit), then optionally dividends at source. Once the money reach your personal account, you’d deal with personal taxes (social contributions and income tax — if you pay yourself a salary), then capital gain (stock) / dividends + health tax on such earnings once the money enters your own pocket straight from the company as a shareholder.

cmin764 2mo

The general idea is to reinvest and have expenses on the business side (at arm’s length), so you diminish your liability, then opt in for a 0% profit tax on offshore income (jurisdictions with territorial tax systems), these usually have 0% on dividends as well.

cmin764 2mo

Then once the money leave the company and arrives into your pocket, it doesn’t matter anymore where you had your company, it matters now where you got your self tax residency (which is in one place per year, doesn’t partition). Because there you pay taxes at personal level.

cmin764 2mo

In EU if you stay more than 183 days in a country, you become a tax resident there. If you stay less anywhere else, you can become one of Cyprus within 2 months or maybe UAE within 3 or even less based on what strings you pull to get that certificate proving that you are a tax resident of the country of your choice. It is often judged based on the center of vital interests: family, school/kids, expenses, time spent, business, properties, social system registration, alien residency card etc.

In Romania for eg. if your tax residency can’t be determined, then it will default based on your nationality. So there’s no way of not being a tax resident anywhere else, some country will claim it once you decide to invest your savings and you go through AML procedure.

cmin764 2mo

Who tells you that you can just open a fintech personal account that “doesn’t report”, travel the world and receive income without declaring anything and live like that forever, it’s clearly that they haven’t done any serious investment. Not at least in Europe.

angeloallocc 1mo

Hello everyone,

I'm starting my journey as a digital nomad and, being a resident of Italy, I'm a bit confused about the legal and tax aspects. I need your help to understand how to best manage my situation and avoid common mistakes.

Specifically, I would like to get more information on the following questions:

Where to establish my company? What are your experiences with tax-friendly countries or those with specific regimes for digital nomads (like Portugal, Estonia, Georgia)? Do you have advice on how and where to incorporate a business (e.g., LLC, sole proprietorship, etc.)?

Visas and tax residency: How did you handle the issue of tax residency? Did you choose to stay under the 183-day limit in each country, or did you opt for a digital nomad residency visa? What are the pros and cons of both strategies?

Managing the AIRE: For those of you who, like me, are residents in Italy, how did you handle the Anagrafe degli Italiani Residenti all'Estero (AIRE) enrollment? What were the consequences (tax, administrative, health care)? Did you face any difficulties with the Italian Revenue Agency?

Bank accounts and taxes: Which banks or financial services do you recommend for managing global income and expenses? How do you organize yourselves to pay taxes and comply with international regulations?

Any advice or personal experience, even on a single point, would be incredibly valuable.

Thank you very much in advance!

martinzoeller 1mo

Don't incorporate in Estonia if you're a "digital nomad". They changed their regulations quietly about a month ago and if you don't have strong ties to Estonia, you won't get a VAT ID anymore, see: https://eidel.io/estonia-quietly-killed-its-e-residency-for-digital-nomads-vat-id-changes-in-august-2025/

andrewclapham 1mo

Whoa. Thanks for the heads up

angeloallocc 1mo

gawxypte are you a nomad? What was your tax choice?

andrewclapham 1mo

This is a huge topic. I recommend watching videos by Michael Rosmer on YouTube. He’s by far the best thinker on the topic.

martinzoeller 1mo

I am the one mentioned in the article I've linked above. I am an expat living in Bangkok.

amade1 1mo

It depends on what business you want to run. If you’re a solo tech freelancer, then any place you can designate as your “home base” is fine. You rent a place there, register a company, and make sure that you have stronger ties there than to Italy. If you want to run an actual business (SaaS, e-commerce, agency), then don’t look for tax optimizations, but rather where your customers are, or where you see yourself living 5-10 years into the future.

carryondre 1mo

I’m an indirect tax lawyer, including EU VAT (although not your VAT lawyer)… but if I was in a situation where I needed an Estonian VAT ID (why?) and I couldn’t just register, then I’d look into receiving an invoice from outside of Estonia for something with the “place of supply” being Estonia… You’ll probably find that you’d have to register for VAT in order to report that reverse charge VAT… Not VAT/tax advice, just throwing in a bone - might be helpful… but again, why the need for a Estonian VAT number?

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