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hey, anyone know of any accountants in portugal that can help me to optimise my tax structure as a digital nomad who just recently moved here? ty!!
Check the sticky, theyโ€™re great
you should move with an optimization strategy in mind :)
i have bruh
now just getting an accountant to make it happen
am an EU citizen so its fairly smooth
A secret benefit of Chile ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Real Estate: the DFL2 tax benefit

For up to 2 NEW property purchases up to 140m2:

- NO income tax on rentals
- 50% discount on property tax for 10-20 years
- 75% seal duty reduction
- No gift or inheritance tax

With two high-end properties, this could be 7-9k USD/mo tax-free for life!

These have to be new properties. If you are buying used, you keep the property tax discount till the end of the term, but lose the 0% income tax on those rentals
andchimi 2mo
Nomads who have travelled around Asia (namely TH, PH, VN, JP, CN) how have you handled taxes? Do you need to apply for a permit different for each country?
limextapa 2mo
In all of these countries, taxes are not required for individuals visiting as tourists. This status changes if one establishes long-term residence. Consequently, the optimal zero-tax nomad strategy involves maintaining an official address or residence in a zero-tax jurisdiction while traveling globally, ensuring that the maximum permitted stay in any given country is not exceeded.
andchimi 2mo
Thanks, what about working there though? I read that technically I should apply for a work visa
simonapp 2mo
i would love an AI summary of everything thats written about tax so far in this group
The actionable parts of tax are always specific to your individual circumstances. The substance and your risk appetite. And mainly, how much money youโ€™re making.
limextapa 2mo
I donโ€™t know a single nomad who spent a few weeks / couple of months in a foreign country and who got busted for working from his laptop at Starbucks;-)
andchimi 2mo
Great to know
andchimi 2mo
Truthfully I was only particularly worried for Japan and China as they seem to be (?) stricter
danamo 2mo
I have been wondering about this. Maybe someone with more knowledge can correct me but on a tourist visa you are prohibited from working and being paid from within the country. The only scenario where working remotely breaks the rule, if I understand correctly, is if you work for a local customer. If your income comes from elsewhere you should be good IMHO
danamo 2mo
If you have a saas and happen to have local customers I guess that could hold i court but it seems vanishingly unlikely that theyโ€™d check unless they want to bust you for something else ๐Ÿ˜…
thadley 2mo
There are no blanket rules. Plenty of countries prohibit working at all, regardless of source of income. This is why some of the "nomad visas" are the same length as a tourist visa โ€”ย they want you to report that income and pay taxes to them on it. Enforeceability with all of this is another question.
alexsun 2mo
100% work for local company is forbiden for tourist. but that means that you canโ€™t get a part time job while staying 2month somewhere. so donโ€™t worry about frilancing or working remotely while on tourist visa - just donโ€™t - even if this would be technically illigal - that is non-enforcable. even in chian or japan or usa
andchimi 2mo
From what I could understand any work, foreign or local, is forbidden if you don't have the proper work visa
andchimi 2mo
As Alex said the enforcement is a different issue
alexsun 2mo
cant image living in turkey for 20 years tbh )
Any Canadians here have advice on best setups and best order to sort out residency / banking / corporate structure?
Check out Michael Rosmer on YouTube, he is/was Canadian and covers it a bit
Thanks - the country has deteriorated to an unrecognizable state, very sad to see the national self destruction happening.
linusnoak 1mo
Anyone living in Georgia and paying the 1% tax? I'm in Sweden and looking to make the move. Is it easy?
I can help you if needed
The great Uruguay ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡พ tax holiday trick!

While the 2 million USD RE investment or 100k/year funds investment caused shock, not everyone caught the fine print:

"Quienes adquieran la residencia fiscal a partir del 1ยบ de enero de 2026, en tanto configuren la hipรณtesis dispuesta en el literal A) del artรญculo 2ยบ de este Tรญtulo en cada ejercicio fiscal podrรกn realizar la referida opciรณn sin necesidad de cumplir las condiciones previstas en el inciso anterior."

So besides the two investment options, you can still use literal A, Articulo 2

This says you can become a tax resident by either:
a) Spending 183 days
b) Having your main base of financial activities and economic nexus

For B, it is understood that you can claim tax residence in Uruguay when over 50% of your income comes from the country

So technically still possible to get the tax holiday without 183 days or investment if you open a Uruguayan company and run most of your income through it

Now, what is the big trick?

Foreign-source income in Uruguay is self-reported. Because the escribanos usually will not validate your foreign income, one can say that you have none or very little.

So one opens a SAS, invoices enough to cover basic living expenses through it, pays out the director's wage, pays the social security, and thus claims that this constitutes their main income

Uruguay will then consider the person a tax resident and allow them to claim the tax holiday.

Would this hold in court if there was a tax dispute with another country AND the person clearly has most of their income outside Uruguay and hasn't spent 183 days? No

Does it work to become tax resident and claim the tax holiday and have a tax certificate? Sure

Not legal advice
minonomad 1mo
Nice thanks :)
Pieter is going through hell gathering invoices. From memory he was incorporated in Singapore. It sounds like Portugal has the same problem.

In Australia and US you donโ€™t need invoice for every little thing unless you get audited which is great.

Has anyone solved this nonsense?

I would comment on Pieterโ€™s x thread but replies are locked.

I thought perhaps you could do a C-corp or LLC in the US, and have it as containment to keep all the trading / spending there, and just transfer over big lumps of money as needed.
Hereโ€™s the thread https://x.com/levelsio/status/2054171416841396565
amade1 1mo
I think the solution heโ€™s coming up with is pretty good: automate it with AI on your end, when other options fail. Most vendors send you invoices by email. I only have issues with Stripe, ChatGPT, Google Ads, Bing Ads, GoDaddy, and Respond.io I think. I used to be massively annoyed with that too, until I decided to religiously set up Gmail filters and auto forwarding to my accountant + whenever I can I move to vendors that support invoices via email (true story: moved most of my domains to cloudflare for this reason).
amade1 1mo
Then, EU is slowly transitioning to e-invoicing, so I think this issue will go away eventually. The vendor will just post your invoice to the centralized DB, and there wonโ€™t be any pdfs anymore. Hope that EU will also force non-EU vendors to post e-invoices when dealing with EU customers.
nicolah 1mo
It seems to be easy..
nicolah 1mo
Register as an Individual Entrepreneur (IE) + Small Business: 1% tax on revenue (up to 500,000 GEL/year, approximately USD 180,000). No minimum capital required. Can be done remotely or in person.

gegidze.com

Process: Public Service Hall (House of Justice) in Tbilisi or through a representative with power of attorney. You will need your passport, address (can be rented), and NACE code for art/online trade. Takes 1โ€“2 days, fee approximately 60โ€“110 GEL.

Foreign income (e.g., from Etsy, your website) is taxed territoriallyโ€”often 0% or very low, as long as it is not Georgian.
it's fast and easy. takes 3/4 business days to register IE and open the business account
for an american citizen and remote biz owner, which euro countries work to live in long term? ai is telling me czechia is good.
or recs for an accountant i can talk to..
amade1 1mo
Start with where you want to live, and then talk to an accountant/tax advisor that can tell you how things work in practice in a given country. Easily accessible public info wonโ€™t give you a good picture. Any country in the EU is good in some ways, and bad in others, and in every one youโ€™ll find American business owners for whom it worked out.
Has anyone setup the Estonian e residency? It seems too good to be true - any catches?
I have it but I never used it. 0% tax on business is great but you have a flat 24% on any personal transfer. look it up
amade1 1mo
Iโ€™ve been running Estonian company for the last 10 years. For me, itโ€™s as good as advertised, as long as your personal tax base is also in Estonia. But Iโ€™m also quite okay with paying a bit higher tax, and not having to deal with bureaucracy.

The main โ€œcatchโ€ is that unless you โ€œyolo itโ€ (which I wouldnโ€™t do), youโ€™ll have to pay yourself a market-level salary for your work (either as an employee, or a director), and that salary is taxed at around 40% from gross (flat rate, including pretty high mandatory social tax). The 22% tax on dividends (profit after your salary, and expenses) is true, no โ€œgotchasโ€ here.
amade1 1mo
But I wouldnโ€™t register a company in Estonia again if I was generally โ€œbasedโ€ long-term in another EU country. Then itโ€™s too much hassle, and risk. Overall Estonia is a good choice if youโ€™re a true hardcore nomad, or plan to rebase to Estonia once the revenue is a bit higher.
Not planning on any European or other high tax personal residency
From Grok:

If you set up a proper employment contract (not board member remuneration) and actually perform the work outside Estonia, the salary you pay yourself is 0% Estonian income tax and 0% social tax. Itโ€™s fully deductible for the Oรœ. Most remote solo founders Iโ€™ve seen do exactly this for their monthly living money.
The ~40% tax (including the high social tax) only kicks in if you choose the board member / director fee route or if youโ€™re personally tax resident in Estonia.
Dividends do work exactly as you said (22/78 corporate tax when distributed) โ€” no disagreement there.
So the โ€œyou have to pay yourself a market-level salary taxed at ~40%โ€ part isnโ€™t accurate for non-resident e-residents using the employment contract route. That seems to be the key difference based on whether your personal tax base is in Estonia or not.
amade1 1mo
Then you may be running into issues with banks, Stripe or anyone that will be asking questions like โ€œwhere you actually are. Why your business is in Estoniaโ€. Even after I physically moved to Estonia, and 8 years established history with a major bank, it still took me weeks to open a bank account at the same bank for another Estonian company I registered, due to KYC (and Iโ€™m EU citizen).
amade1 1mo
Yes, if youโ€™re outside of Estonia, and your country of tax residence doesnโ€™t care, it might be easier on the employee tax. I donโ€™t know much about this topic, since I was never a tax resident of a such low tax country.
I use merchant of record to sidestep this entirely
amade1 1mo
Might work for you then. One other thing that was a surprise to me when I started was that companyโ€™s data is publicly available, and very easily accessible. Try looking up any estonian company: all revenue, all dividends, average employee taxes, headcount are all online.
Wow - I didnโ€™t know that! Seems like a major red flag
Likely tax exit. But right now I actually just need an accountant to provide a confirmation of my income to give to the student finance company. I need an accountant that is able to provide a small service like this at the outset (without charging the earth).

Do you know somebody who could do this?
๐Ÿ‘†Iโ€™m seeking an accountant for a small initial job. Can be based in any country. Any recommendations?
yes, can intro you!
Yes please, thanks Francisco
I have DMโ€™d you
done!
cmin764 22d
I'm already into the non-dom program of Cyprus via the 60-days rule. So far I've got the non-dom residency SDC exemption, now waiting for the TRC to be all set and deregister totally from my home country.
tommrvn 8d
Hey guys, new to the community here.
Are there any community docs providing tax advice for digital nomads? Moslty wondering where you're supposed to pay your taxes if you're moving around all the time.
amade1 8d
I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s any, since itโ€™s a highly personal topic.
yes this will depend a lot from person to person. usually people will pick a tax residency that exempts them from their foreign sourced incomes and that has little requirement to live there. i for instance have paraguay, but its pretty common to see people using UAE, Panama, Uruguay, Cyprus, Thailand, among others
Glad to help with this if you're new to the tax side
tommrvn 8d
Thanks for the quick responses. Ok super helpful, do you recommend any companies to set this all up?
(French national, US company, travelling globally)
A few months ago, I had an international tax consultation, and Thailand came out as the best option from a tax perspective. It was actually the country I wanted to move to anyway, so it worked out perfectly. I can definitely recommend them.

I also use an app called Nomad Tracker to track my days, avoid overstaying, and see where Iโ€™ll be a tax resident.
cmin764 6d
If you're European, usually you pay in the EU country where you stayed 6+ months in a year, and if that can't be determined, then it defaults to the jurisdiction where your vital interests are, and when that is hard to establish, then it jumps to your passport country/nationality.
grischak 18h
Hi there, ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
Iโ€™m a German citizen currently giving up everything in Germany to start a location-independent life as a digital nomad.

At the same time, Iโ€™m building a digital business with mainly EU-based clients and looking for the most tax-efficient and legally compliant setup.

I plan to travel primarily around South America and stay fully location-independent.

If youโ€™ve already gone through this journey, Iโ€™d love to hear about your experiences, lessons learned, or any resources you can recommend. Feel free to DM me.
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