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Iโ€™m in Panama now, until next week
catalin 4mo
someone here has opened a bank account?
angelovt 3mo
Planning to be in Panama City in August. We're a couple, just looking for a nice place to stay, work from and try out how it would be to live there. Any recommendations?
angelovt 3mo
Not available for my OS unfortunately. The website I found with the same name seems to be unrelated
What do you mean
alexsun 3mo
Hey guys. Anyone has a contact of a company specialising in business incorporation/accounting/tax support in Panama? Would relly appreciate it. hate to go to a random company from the first page of google search.
nivesh 3mo
โ€œThe jerz wayโ€ they are good and pretty reliable.
Hey, glad to help here :) we can help with incorporation, accounting, banking, residency and all of that
alexrod94 3mo
Anyone in Panama at the moment?
alexrod94 3mo
Are there any expat groups here?
Hey nsmlztbkxlo I'm here, are you staying ? or just passing by
alexrod94 3mo
Staying for 2 weeks!
alexrod94 3mo
Iโ€™m getting my residency at the moment
Anyone in Panamรก City right now?

Iโ€™m settling there trying to make friends,

Any recommendations to find activities / workshops things like that are welcomed
maristia 2mo
Hi! Favourite areas in Panama City to stay for 2 weeks? I don't need nightlife at all. Just nicer, safe area, with supermarkets, walkable (as much as possible). Thanks!
adityag 2mo
Hola! I plan to obtain my Panama residency in the next couple of months and am considering working with either 'the Jerz group' or 'the Rothbard group'. I am curious whether anyone here has personal experience with either of these two or with someone else and can recommend or vouch for them.
Hi Aditya! We can also help with your Panama residency, banking, incorporation and other needs you have in the country :)
angelovt 2mo
Visiting Panama, arriving this week. Any expat groups you guys know about?
no way
until when are you staying
i have to do a stopover in PTY
angelovt 2mo
I'm arriving thursday and staying until late August
all booked?

im doing a friends trip in the Dominican republic, 17 days in Las Terrenas then Santo Domingo

much better beaches and weather than Panama
angelovt 2mo
Haha, nice, although I'm scouting the city, so to speak, not looking for tourism ๐Ÿ˜
(it is all booked, yes)
ah shame
can intro you to a few colleagues there
Bienvenido!
I'm in Panama right now
Also staying until late August
itsfelice 1mo
Hey, let's do a meetup in the city.
angelovt 1mo
I'm down. sozpzzpobbszl
philalive 28d
Random question: Iโ€™m considering getting a second passport mainly for diversification, not for travel.

Given my nationality/lifestyle and how cheap they are, Panama (~5 years) and Paraguay (~3 years) seem like the most interesting options. The main thing for me is that I donโ€™t want to significantly change my lifestyle or spend most of the year in one country. Ideally Iโ€™d maintain the residence properly, keep whatever local ties/assets are needed, visit a few times a year, and still be free to travel.

Iโ€™d consider citizenship-by-investment too if some cheap-as-fuck opportunity came up ๐Ÿ˜…, but Iโ€™m generally not interested in spending hundreds of thousands just for another passport as mine is already very strong (EU)

Has anyone here:
- actually obtained citizenship after ~3 years in Paraguay or ~5 years in Panama?
- done it while spending relatively little time there?
- found any other low-cost, low-physical-presence routes worth considering?

Also curious whether you think pursuing a second passport purely for long-term diversification is actually worthwhile.
valkmit 28d
The CIP programs in the Caribbean are unbeatable, usually the entry level tiers are "donations", but at a slightly higher tier / willing to lock up ~300-500k of capital in a real estate purchase gets you the passport too

You mentioned you don't want to pay a few hundred k, but you're willing to maintain a residence there - this is how you'd structure it - purchase real estate and hold the property, which I think ties in neatly with what you already stated you were willing to do
valkmit 28d
Buying real estate in lieu of donation to qualify for CIP is probably the lowest cost approach in terms of haircut to equity you'd take (the RE you're qualified to buy for purposes of CIP is usually overvalued af)
philalive 28d
Yeah, I already have Panama actually. Italy has a special treaty/relationship with Panama, so for Italians the route is even easier than the Friendly Nations visa.

All-in, the residency process cost me around โ‚ฌ3.5k + two flights. I became a permanent resident on January 14, 2026, and in theory I should be eligible to apply for naturalization 5 years from that date.

What Iโ€™m mainly trying to understand now is how probable citizenship actually is in practice after those 5 years, especially if I maintain the residency/ties properly but donโ€™t spend most of the year there.

On the Caribbean CIPs, I get your point. Iโ€™m just not a huge fan of real estate as an investment in general, especially in countries far away from where I actually live. Iโ€™d rather keep most of my capital in liquid investments than lock $300โ€“500k into a property I probably wouldnโ€™t otherwise buy, especially if the CIP-approved real estate is somewhat overpriced to begin with.

That said, I really like the general idea of doing some annoying legal/admin bullshit early in life and potentially collecting the benefits 5โ€“10 years later but i'm open to new ideas!
valkmit 28d
Do you want a passport specifically or are you OK with long-term residency?
valkmit 28d
e.g. Dubai has a pretty nice golden visa program tied to RE investment, and apart from the current conflict with Iran real estate there historically has been a solid investment
valkmit 28d
You said you didn't want it for travel, so perhaps you'd be amenable to the 20-year visa as a fallback
Any of you guys stay long term here ? Recently arrived
itsfelice 27d
A few of us!
emrahkurt 25d
Hi!
For my doctoral dissertation, I would like to conduct interviews via Zoom about digital nomads. The interviews will be voice-only and will consist of several questions on the topic. Would anyone be willing to participate and help me with my research?
Coming back tomorrow for another month
Time for a meetup
itsfelice 20d
Let's
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