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hugohb 1mo
The magti support told me to select manually one of their supported local networks, then restart my phone.

But the problem is that once I restart my phone, I've noticed that the Georgian card goes back to automatic network selection...
hugohb 1mo
It's so frustrating, I've spent my whole morning on this, and there's less than 24h left for tax filing!
hugohb 1mo
BTW, thanks for the fast response, Sam and Boris. Much appreciated ๐Ÿ™
samgozman 1mo
Do not restart your phone, select supported operator and try to wait for 10-15 minutes
samgozman 1mo
This works for me in Europe and Israel
boris_k 1mo
(even 30 minutes in some cases)
hugohb 1mo
Yeah, I've had instances before as well, in other countries, when it was taking 10 to 20 minutes. But here in Taiwan, it's been hours and nothing comes up :/
samgozman 1mo
Itโ€™s not a crime if you overdue your tax declaration in Georgia for a few days, just a fine
So do not worry that much)
hugohb 1mo
I'm staying 3 months in Taiwan. What I'm mostly worried is that I won't be able to make any declarations until mid-June...
boris_k 1mo
I really suspect the problem may be related specifically to Taiwan. It's possible that magti does not have a right to operate there in any way
boris_k 1mo
For example, Taiwan citizens are not allowed to enter Georgia at all.
samgozman 1mo
Looks like you are traveling to mainland China next week ๐Ÿ˜
hugohb 1mo
Chat support gave me a list of local Taiwanese operators supported, and this page also lists a few: https://www.magticom.ge/magazine/2001-4/roum.html
boris_k 1mo
Hmm, it's weird then...
boris_k 1mo
Try another phone may be?
hugohb 1mo
I actually didn't consider that haha. I was planning a quick trip to Hong Kong, maybe I should make it happen sooner than I thought! ^^
hugohb 1mo
It's an e-SIM :/
boris_k 1mo
Check if your phone supports all the local operator 4g/5g bands
boris_k 1mo
Ughh
hugohb 1mo
I know....
hugohb 1mo
Good point, I'll check that as well.
boris_k 1mo
It does work in HK for sure, I've been there with Magti
adam 1mo
Somewhat related. If you're having problems receiving Magti SMS messages when out of the country, and can't access a TBC account, then setup TBC pass app. Allows 2fa TBC access without SMS.
hugohb 1mo
Thanks for the tip, Adam. I'll see if that works with BOG as well.
hugohb 1mo
A few hours later, my Magti card still hasn't connected to any local network manually...

Anyone has a good resource about fines for delays in tax declaration/payment? ๐Ÿ˜…
boris_k 1mo
Fine for failure to submit a tax returnย 
The penalty for non-submission of a declaration for a legal entity in Georgia is 100 Lari per declaration. For late payment of taxes, the business owner will be charged a penalty of 0.05% per day of the amount of tax not paid on time. For non-payment of tax within up to 2 months, the taxpayer is obliged to pay a fine of 5% of the unpaid tax amount. If the delay is more than 2 months, the fine is 10% of the unpaid tax amount.
boris_k 1mo
But this might be related to llcs only
maybe try emailing them explaining situation? perhaps there is some kind of extension possible
this page is ๐Ÿ”ฅ hopefully they won't redesign it
hugohb 1mo
In the end, I transferred my e-SIM to a trusted person in my home country, where I was sure it would be able to receive an SMS...

I went in the Magti app > Order > Replace sim card, paid 10GEL and sent the newly-generated QR code to my relative. They activated it on their own phone within a minute, and voila. They received this damn SMS instantly when I logged in rs.ge and they transferred it to me.
hugohb 1mo
What a mess... But at least I declared and paid taxes before the deadline!
boris_k 1mo
I think there is also an option on rs.ge to replace the phone number with a special additional password. Works with only Georgian numbers though.
Hey everyone! Iโ€™ll be in Tbilisi in April/May, and was wondering if you have any recommendations for coworking spaces?
jmibl 28d
Terminal has several locations and is decent (the Mozaika one is a bit weird). I paid 350GEL per month for my own desk. Vibe in the ones I've worked in is pretty quiet and down to work.

Other options exist, but Terminal is probably a good base level to compare with.

If you want a half way to coworking, there's also cafes like Coffee Lab and Red Man that are work friendly.
Thank you fomhwroz Iโ€™ll definitely check out Terminal then
(And itโ€™s also a bit far from the places you recommended)
jmibl 28d
Many good reasons to be in these areas, especially for first visit. Sure, some people move out, but I know long term people who live in Sololaki.

Main downsides are fewer things like decent supermarkets, gyms (not sure any in those areas) or coworking spaces. If you want them, then areas like Vake (IMHO less Tbilisi vibe) or Marjanishvilli can be better choices.
jmibl 28d
Boris' map that covers the good areas quite well. Different vibes, but won't go wrong.
Got it. Thanks for that detailed answer ๐Ÿ™
Iโ€™ll see what I can find
Is Airbnb a great site for 1-2months stays here, btw?
I have never been there myself, but a friend spent a month in an apartment he found on Airbnb. He loved the experience.
I spent 2 months in a airbnb.
I believe he was in Batumi. But he also said Tbilisi had good options too.
Tbilisi
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shousper 23d
Anyone used one of these services like tbilisivirtualoffice.com? Seems shady af ๐Ÿ˜… "We will establish you a Georgian company. Even without a trip to Tbilisi" from 750 GEL ๐Ÿค” Is that even possible?
jmibl 23d
For sure, good to be skeptical, but it doesn't sound totally impossible (you could probably set up a UK company online from any country).

I use a virtual address for my business which is run by Expathub (which are legit / the branded option in the market and might charge something like what you've found). But I did at least some of the registration in person.
shousper 23d
Thanks! ๐Ÿ™ I've literally just sent a message to ExpatHub ๐Ÿ˜… Is there really no need to go there in person? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ Interesting
boris_k 23d
Yes, I opened it remotely back in the day. But you need a Georgian bank account to pay taxes. This is significantly more difficult to open remotely (not sure if possible at all).
boris_k 23d
Ofc, someone could pay them for you but that would be a huge inconvenience. Also need a Georgian phone number to register a tax account.
anyone up to hit slopes in Gudauri? ๐Ÿ”๏ธ
weather is nice, plenty of snow
Hi guys, is it long to open a bank account in Georgia? What documents do they need for this?
boris_k 21d
Depends on your nationality
Plenty of snow. I confirm.
In my case. I needed a passport to register in Magti. Then phone number and passport to create a bank account.
Both BOG and TBC were super friendly. In BOG you can request transfer confirmations on email which is useful if you are abroad and forgot to change the phone number in a Bank.
Btw is there anybody from Batumi?
I'm going to be there in August and updated my nomads profile successfully
navidshad 16d
Maybe itโ€™s browser issue, Ill test another browser,
Thanks ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป
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Opened my Credo Bank account pretty easily yesterday. Only passport needed. The girl also asked me to send a pdf with my work contract, just to attach it, but I think it was optional
Btw for this I pay only 500$ per month on AirBnb, but I think you can find even cheaper if not using AirBnb
Anyone knows any virtual office or coworking spaces in Batumi?
alfraga90 13d
I noticed that Georgia has a year-long passport stamp
alfraga90 13d
Do airlines require a return flight?
alexrod94 13d
Following. Any easy bank account to open that offers multi currency?
Credo Bank
nope, they dont
alfraga90 13d
People opening bank accounts here? Whatโ€™s wrong with our US banks lol
Can it be opened from abroad?
Definitely not
diversify๐Ÿ˜Š
But, I guess, the main reason is 1% tax for IT
alfraga90 13d
Oh thatโ€™s awesome
jmibl 13d
Local bank account is useful for paying taxes / interraction with the government (which you need to do for international parcels not just income). Not sure it's critical (you can probably feed cash into terminals on the street). Otherwise, TBC and BoG seem fairly competent, and are easy to set up, but I wouldn't keep much money in them if you want safety.
jmibl 13d
To add a bit more colour, beyond the inherent instability in Georgia, people involved in TBC (and I think BoG) are into politics. Having said that, I doubt the government would want the banks to fail, but who knows.
whats up guys
If you're interested in discussing an AI protocol that enables language models to interact with external data or devices, you're invited to join our meeting.

Tomorrow at 1 PM
Lend Space Co-working Batumi
https://meetu.ps/e/NWJ8k/vScFh/i
Thats an amazing idea, thank you bro
Will attend
altier 7d
Arrived in Tbilisi today.. down to meet folks or go on trips anywhere or yeah pretty much any activity so give me a shout (big into the outdoors - climbing/hiking) or cool bars/nightlife/techno (not sure if big in Georgia or not!)
โ€™ll be traveling around Georgia soon and hoping to connect with the local expat/nomad community in each city. If you have any tips on how people usually stay in touch or organize meetups, Iโ€™d love to hear from you โ€” happy to chat in DMs. Thanks so much! ๐Ÿ˜Š
jmibl 6d
I'm not around right now (or the best person for it) but Tbilisi is a techno place. The famous clubs are Khidi and Bassiani, but loads of others around e.g. L'Ado on the right night (more of a bar). Most young Georgians will be more than happy to direct you.
altier 6d
Thanks Jamie thatโ€™s great to hear, will definitely check them out
are you running some kind of expat/nomad gig?
Yes, I do
jonomun 6d
Check out Tbilisi_expat_community on Instagram
There is also expat_batumi in instagram
Please share, if you know some more english speaking groups/events in Batumi๐Ÿ˜
Has anybody tested Georgian numbers internationally? Especially in latin america?
boris_k 5d
They work, but you have to make sure the balance is active (for Magti, adding 1 GEL to the account balance reactivates it)
has anyone moved their tax residency using the high networth option?
boris_k 1d
I only know that your assets (1M$+) must be located in Georgia for that.
By the way, regarding roaming.
The best roaming appears to be with Georgian Silknet.
Magti and Beeline have different roaming coverage - in some places Beeline is better, in others Magti. Neither covers Maldives and Philippines.
Magti doesn't work in India and Indonesia, while Beeline does. However, Beeline doesn't work in South Korea.
Silknet has the best coverage. They still don't have Tanzania, but they cover many more countries than other operators: they even have the Caribbean!
Argentina is available with all operators. Paraguay is only available with Magti. Uruguay and Peru are only available with Silknet. Chile and Colombia aren't available with any operator.
Africa coverage is much better with Silknet. But Tanzania is only available with Magti. Kenya is available with Beeline and Silknet.
So I'm probably going to switch to Silknet. Beeline has terrible reception in Batumi... And good roaming coverage wouldn't hurt.
boris_k 14h
That's incorrect. They just don't list some countries on their roaming page info for some reason. Magti works everywhere except possibly Taiwan (which we learned recently from another group chat member)
boris_k 14h
(I've been to India, Uruguay and Peru with Magti, it works without issues there)
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