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Hey all, what are the best neighbourhoods to stay in Madrid?
depends on the preferences. salamance-goya-ibiza are nice.
axelux 2mo
It depends a bit. What are you looking for? Goya, Salamanca and those are the "posh" ones. Tribunal, Bilbao are a bit more alternative. Chueca is the gay one, alternative too.
axelux 2mo
Sol is the official center, but there are different perception of what is the center depending on the people ๐Ÿ˜‚
sjnarins 1mo
Hi! For the DNV- as I understand it you just need to pay tax in your own country, and not to Spain. Is that right?
sjnarins 1mo
Iโ€™m thinking of coming to Valencia in February! What kind of housing did u find? Airbnb? Colive?
Diclaimer: Not a tax expert, but have a decent understanding.

Tl;dr Your visa does not determine your tax situation. They are connected but not in the simplistic way of if you have this visa, you pay tax here.


Tax rules are like Magic The Gathering rules. There are base rules and then countries have their own overriding rules and then some countries have synergies aka DTAA (Double Taxation avoidance agreement)

Base rules.
1. You owe tax where you are a resident. Most countries like Spain define this as a stay of 183 days in a year. So if you stay below that, you do not owe any taxes.
2. You owe tax where your income is sourced. This is not straight forward as it depends on the kind of income. For salaried employee, your tax will be deducted by the country where your company is based in. For contracts, there will be no deduction in the country of the client. For other incomes like interest or dividends, they get taxed in the source country. After this tax deducted, you might still owe tax in the source country and your current resident country depending on your income as a whole.
3. If you do not qualify as a resident anywhere, you owe taxes to your home country.

But there are additional considerations. Some examples.
1. Some countries like US, as a citizen you owe tax on global income irrespective of where you live.
2. Some countries have multiple residency requirements. Like in India, if you spend more than 60 days in the current year plus have spent 365 days in the past 4 years, you are a tax resident.

Synergies or the lack of these.
1. Many countries have a DTAA agreement with other countries. So you do not get taxed twice. But be careful to check if it is the case for your pair of countries.
2. Some countries have different tax years. In India, financial year starts in April and goes to March, while Spain and US, it runs from Jan to December. So it creates a pain for income earned during Jan to March. ๐Ÿ™

To summarise, even if you are on a DNV, if you limit your stay to below 183 days than you might not owe any taxes to Spain and just your home country. If not, then you might owe only taxes to your home country. Hope this helps.

Another disclaimer: This is not an exhaustive explanation but just a glimpse into the world of international taxes. I am still learning and if any of this is incorrect, please feel free to rectify.
I got an Airbnb only because I have friends visiting me most weekends but I think I wouldโ€™ve went into a coliving otherwise
I will be staying in Palma coliving from February, can share my experiences then.
So I am working on a DNV for Spain and one of the things required is a Marriage certificate issued within the last 3 months. I have my original marriage certificate issued 3 years ago and the local government office is refusing to issue a certified copy. Anyone faced such a situation and have any possible solutions?
sjnarins 1mo
Are u using a lawyer for the DNV or just applying on your own?
Using a lawyer and working with him to figure alternatives. It just seems weird since my current marriage certificate specifically mentions that additional copies will not be provided. Wanted to know what the default across the world is.
Even in India, some places it seems to be a straight forward process.
dylanuzan 1mo
Anybody in Alicante ?
francov 1mo
Hi Vipul, I didnโ€™t experience this or something similar, but I can tell you that if the spanish government requested it, 99% chance thereโ€™s no workaround but to get what they are asking for. Maybe itโ€™s a different certificate the one you need?

For my visa (not DNV) the government requested me some documents with the apostille to be issued within the last 90 days as well and for example I had to update my application because my criminal record certificate was issued +90 days ago and wasnโ€™t valid anymore
majariusz 1mo
Hiya, I am considering coming to Valencia for a few months. Was there any flood damage in the city proper??
maxiarg46 1mo
Zero
maxiarg46 1mo
I was there a month ago. Everything is back to normal in the city
majariusz 1mo
Thank you ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ™ how did you find Valencia in comparison to Argentina??
maxiarg46 1mo
Valencia, a smaller calmer Barcelona
maxiarg46 1mo
Good place, 80% of neighborhoods are 100% safe the other 20% can be tricky at night (valencia)
maxiarg46 1mo
I liked it, nice place, cute city with good infrastructure
francov 1mo
I live in Vlc for a year and a half already, as Maxi said, everything is working normal with some exceptions on the mainly affected areas which are the ones located on the south/SW, outside valencia city
yulenka 1mo
Good Morning everyone!
Those who are in Barcelona - I have posted 2 meetups: one tomorrow morning for brunch , and another Thursday evening :) letโ€™s meet to know each other!
Yeah. That is what I am afraid of. Hoping things will work out one way or another. thanks for sharing your experience. It helps!
ep05313 1mo
Hi everyone. We're arriving in Valencia in mid February and would like to find a Spanish language school that offers casual courses 2-3 times per week. We'll be staying in Ruzafa. Any suggestions?
Hey, I'm doing it online through lingoda classes + practising on my own through duolingo.

I've found Lingoda pretty good so far
majariusz 1mo
Wow there's gonna be a fair few of us in Valencia, this calls for a meetup!
mattupson 1mo
Also in Valencia, and keen to meet up!
dylanuzan 1mo
Nobody in Alicante? I'm down to meet :)
maxiarg46 1mo
Do you recommend some city/town closer to a bigger one where I can rent an apartment for 500/600 euro a month?
Spain is big and I am having a hard time deciding
Spent last winter in Malaga and loved it, what are other great Nomad community places in Spain except Barcelona?
hello, in madrid for a week. anyone available to chat or grab a coffee. iโ€™d like to know more about the city
mrtropxe 1mo
Currently on Gran Canaria / Mogan
Hit me up for anything
also would like to know a nice gym i can get a day/week pass at. iโ€™m in Malasana
Whatโ€™s the best island in Spain to meet other DNโ€˜s and that generally has an active community with loads of ongoing events?
simjost 1mo
Gran Canaria
mttymst 29d
Hi guys,
My name is Mattia and I am from Italy.
On February 5, I will be taking a 20-day trip to Las Palmas.
It will be a trip for me focused on getting out of my comfort zone and to create new collaborations some digital nomads.
Being on my own, I am asking if anyone has any suggestions for activities, coworking, restaurants or bars?
And is anyone in the area that time?
โค๏ธ
Thanku
Howdy Barcelona Nomads! Doing a meetup at a tapas bar this Sunday. Hope to see you there! Cheers.

Nomads.com Meetup
https://nomads.com/meetups#0cc563f7a5bc9e161e45403a252953ef
Hey yall! Any recommendations on the most cost effective way to stay 1+ month in Spain?
cd 27d
Wdym? Cheapest accommodation/city?
Yea. Looks like airbnb has some additional tax that inflates the price
cd 27d
Check fb groups for owners who can do deal, theyโ€™d likely want more months
Slight train delay! Should be there in 10 mins! Table is under William, for 7.
It does!
Hey guys!! Message me or like this message if youโ€™ll be in Valencia Feb/March - would love to organize a meetup
mklute101 22d
Looking at Valencia for late May - July. Any coliving recommendations?
People who are working from Spain for extended periods as an autรณnomo, how do you do your taxes and accounting? I read that one has to file quarterly VAT, so was wondering if this is easy or if a tax professional is recommended?
maria4fun 21d
Based on my experience Muppy is a good option
maria4fun 21d
I use xolo 6 months already
And it works very well for me so far
brsrdm 19d
Hello everyone! Anyone in Madrid? Would love to connect.
dimuuu 19d
๐Ÿ‘ˆ yep
Yup, been here for a month. Down to have a meetup here? Not sure how many are in Madrid though
brsrdm 18d
I think this is a good idea, organizing a meetup. Iโ€™m sure weโ€™ll find at least 5 people ๐Ÿ˜„
maxiarg46 18d
You can also use the meetup app, 20+ people usually show up always
kagroovs 17d
Hey yโ€™all, Iโ€™ll be close to Marbella ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ mid march to end of April. Anyone else around? I would love to do a meet-up ๐Ÿ˜Š
Hey guys, just arrived in Madrid yesterday - would love to grab a coffee/lunch with anyone here! Happy to go into a coworking space/library and just work together during the day as well :)
rickalon 16d
Yep, I'm in Madrid too, down to grab some drinks this week
brsrdm 16d
It looks like we have some people in Madrid. We can organize a small meetup
brsrdm 16d
Iโ€™ll check this in a few days unless anyone wants to go ahead and do it earlier
brsrdm 16d
I just created this
brsrdm 16d
Check meetups channel
dimuuu 15d
lfg madrid meetup ๐Ÿ”ฅ
dimuuu 15d
hey, iโ€™m up to meet for lunch someday this week
howโ€™s tomorrow?
dimuuu 15d
letโ€™s do it! catch up tomorrow morning on place and time?
ep05313 15d
Hello Spain Nomads - anyone have a good suggestion for parking in Valencia around C/ de Guillem de Castro, Ciutat Vella? We need a space for about 2 months.
Aux Merveilleux de Fred at 9am?
dimuuu 15d
DMโ€™ed
just running 6-7 minutes late sorry!
brsrdm 12d
Hello everyone! We have a meetup today. Iโ€™m sorry but I wonโ€™t be able to make it. Iโ€™ll leave the meetup as it is, just in case you guys want to meet each other. But if you guys also wonโ€™t make it then I can cancel it
rickalon 12d
That's a shame but I can still make it
brsrdm 12d
Iโ€™m really sorry, Iโ€™ll try to make it as possible
I can still make it as well :)
I can still make it. Let's still meet today, we can host another one soon as well!
iโ€™m at el brilliante a bit early as i was in there in case anyone else is here
Running a little late. Will be there soon
ep05313 12d
Thank you. That's a very helpful map.
florianpr 11d
Hello everyone,
My collaborator and I are looking for a Spanish-speaking female influencer already active on social media, primarily on Instagram and, if possible, on YouTube, in the digital work and career change niche.
heyhey! anyone in madrid rn? i just moved my residence here ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ would love to meet some nomads. im hosting a party on saturday too so DM me if youre interested
Hi everyone! I'll be in Barcelona till the end of February, does anyone want to grab a drink this weekend? :)
Also are there any events happening tomorrow?
alexeev 5d
Hey, I am here. I assume itโ€™s a housewarming party, so my congratulations! lmk if you are up to meet for a cup of coffee one day.
alexeev 5d
Guys in Madrid, what do you think about a co-working day? I could arrange smth like this.
im down!
alexeev 3d
what about wednesday?
Any great quiet place to work from in Barcelona?
This one was nice https://maps.app.goo.gl/tu57svYfgujLQk1M9
Spasiba dzieki marhaba thanks ๐Ÿ™
njo 2d
๐Ÿ‘‹ Has anyone run into the The Beckham Law when doing a visa for Spain? Currently employed in London but looking to base myself in Spain and then just commute to London each week for the few days I need to do 'in office'. Need to remain a UK tax resident though else work will get upset - so think I need to go with the Digital Nomad visa, and also make sure I fall into this Beckham exception for worldwide income or something. Would love to hear if anyone has been through this process and/or has feedback (also potentially open to referrals / recommendations of a lawyer that could handle the whole process - if they're not going to cost an arm and a leg haha)
alexeev 2d
From what I heard, DN visa holders are not eligible for Beckham Law. Last year some of nomads applied for it and even got approved but then they returned them back to the regular taxation mode.
alexeev 2d
Itโ€™s super unclear, especially from the documentation, but I donโ€™t know any nomad whoโ€™d successfully switched to Beckham Law. Iโ€™d love to do that myself.
njo 2d
Ohh really? Huh, that's super interesting. I guess the exclusion isn't documented anywhere though - just the tax department doing their thing and chasing people down? haha well, that's not ideal ๐Ÿ˜‚
alexeev 2d
Yep, smth like this. You know that in Spain many things depend on a specific manager. But eventually tax department makes it equal for everyone
njo 2d
I wonder if there's any statistical correlation for taxation in Spain (positive or negative) for anyone with 'Shakira' in their name? haha
alexeev 2d
Well, they say some countries even consulted with spain about tax system ๐Ÿ˜‚
njo 2d
Do you happen to know the context of those folks who tried to switch to Beckham's Law? I guess in a typical situation, Beckham's Law is for people who move to Spain only for professional purposes - so do you know if they were just trying to get that excemption while only continuing to work on international clients / projects, or they were actually working in Spain for a Spanish entity and/or Spanish satellite office?
njo 2d
As I guess the DN visa is typically for people who are coming to a country to live, while working for entities / clients outside of the country (that's typical of most DN visas, infact often a requirement of them haha), so perhaps a little atypical to get a DN visa and then also be working for a Spanish company, or at least an international client with office in Spain.
alexeev 2d
I remember only guys working remotely for companies outside of Spain as Autรณnomo (b2b). You won't get the visa if more than 20% of your income comes from Spain.

There's difference between those who work as autรณnomo and employees of foreign companies. But unfortunately here I don't have much info, because I work as autรณnomo myself.
if you plan to maintain UK tax residency, then spanish taxes would not apply (beckham law or not), just need to be careful not to overstay 182 days in spain.
Someone in or around Denia?
This is quite important and will invalidate your DNV if broken.
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