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me!

Hi, I'm planning on going to China for a few months starting in January for February and possibly doing remote work while I am there (through a foreign company, potentially my own American company if it starts up successfully). Does anyone have info on how this works in terms of legal logistics like visas?

I went to China recently, lets vpn worked almost all of the time, but I also used mullvad sometimes when lets was slow.

I use PureVPN and it works like a charm.

Yo I'm in Shanghai and can meet for coffee/lunch on weekdays if anyone passes by this city, hit me up

Thanks for the VPN recommendations. Perhaps I should've clarified I was more so referring to what type of visa I'd need without running into legal troubles in China like being fined or detained. Unsure about the extent to which the government would care

ah my reply was for a few messages above yours

Ohh haha my bad

are you planning to open a business in china or work for chinese companies?

Nah just do remote work for an American company

which passport do you have?

American

just get a tourist visa

Yeah I've got that already

oh then no problem then

Gotcha don't get me wrong I trust that you're being honest with me and have good intentions in mind but it would feel more reassuring to see a policy outlined like this from a firsthand official source haha, do you happen to have any links to pages that talk about this more?

What you're suggesting is a massive grey area that few countries clarify in writing.

I haven't actually started the digital nomad lifestyle yet, so this would be my first time

ah dont worry then

I've been to China multiple times before, but solely for travel

I cant think of many countries that outline their position on digital nomdas working remotely on tourist/visa free

I've worked online as a consultant in the U.S., but never officially been employed for an online position

I think you're being a bit paranoid.

it's two separate things

the remote work for your own company is no issue

in case it ends up being thousands of dollars though, to what extent would they care/take legal action?

i think 10k usd is usually the amount of cash that needs to be declared when crossing a border

So I just declare it and nothing else happens? Or does that raise alarm bells by them and have them look further into it

they may want to know the source of funds

yeah the only thing I can think of right now is to have the money be going not to my account but rather a person with a work visa/citizen of China that I trust and then either use when doing stuff together or have them transfer to me when I'm outside the country

I think its hard to move money out of the country in china without a reason

mmm yeah probably

ggmtaeydkencuvezcj china is definitely a ymmv (your mileage may vary) country - every person and every institution and even every province has different understanding of the rules and they vary how they enforce them. I've heard stories of foreigners being denied renewals of their visas in beijing and taking the train several hours north to another province and getting approved. technically speaking, if you're receiving a salary, you must have a work visa. if you're tutoring on the side or doing one-off events, receiving money with a business / tourist visa might be a gray area. I know that specifically in the case of foreigners coming in with a toruist visa and doing english tutoring there was a crackdown a few years ago - the trouble with an autocratic nation is that the rules are whatever is enforced 🤷

Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated!

You can’t renew a visa within China. You have to do it at the Chinese consulate or embassy of your home country

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Hey there,

Apologies in advance for the text wall. I've asked a similar question here before but now that my plans are becoming more concrete I'm just trying to be as clear and safe as possible.

Context: I'm planning to travel to China for a few months (not going over the 90 consecutive days limit)starting around the end of January or beginning of February. I'm currently in the process of starting up an online U.S.-based company (sole proprietorship most likely) and hoping to soft-launch it prior to me going (within the next month or two). It's an online coaching service company. I'd be the main face of the company and providing consultations, and I'd also have some other people on-board who would provide their own related services.


I'm concerned because with a tourist visa I don't know if my company would be allowed to continue operating. I would want to:

1. continue promoting and growing the company during that time, taking on new clients
if I can't do #1: /> 2. take on new clients quietly and maintain current clients
if I can't do #2: /> 3. at least continue serving existing clients
if I can't do #3:
4. I'd at least want to be making money through the business passively as it continues operations without me directly serving clients, ideally monitoring what happens to make sure things go as they should
if I can't do #4: /> 5. Hope the company stays okay while I just let it do its own thing...

I've seen mixed things from different sources talking about the legality of these things. Some of them recommend speaking directly with the most official sources like calling the Embassy since these things aren't necessarily outlined very clearly. Thing is I wouldn't wanna just "turn myself in" if it's something that they would otherwise ignore though (like 此地无银三百两 lol）. Seems my number can be tracked down even with a no caller ID, and I don't have a burner phone on me as of now. My dad does have one, but he lives in a different state. I fear that if I have him make the call and then they say anything unclear, it'll make him extremely anxious since he's already nervous about me traveling overseas for an extended period in the first place.

What do you think is my best bet? Call the embassy anonymously? Go all out as if nothing bad will happen (not sure if I'd trust whoever tells me this one though lmao)?? Get a lawyer to consult? etc. etc.

Thanks for reading :)

just don't take any money from anyone inside china and you'll be fine :)

Haha thanks, guess I’ll have to direct potential Chinese clients elsewhere throughout that time

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