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pablos in #spain 3d
Anyone in Marbella ?
Thanks! How do you avoid this?
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Hello here. Anyone whoโ€™s gone through the Spain digital nomad visa process!?
Muรฉvete en Bici de la CDMX! Going to rollerblade on Paseo de la Reforma (flatter section) tomorrow morning, anyone in town?
Yes
Hi Da Nang people,
Following up on pickleball! I've arrived and actually I'm staying next door to Sรดng Thu Pickeball. So if anyone is keen for a game, I'm basically available every day.
Reminder that I'm a pickleball virgin. Played padel once and I'm OK at squash, but basically a complete amateur.

Sorry for Da Nang specific content. I can't see where else to put this kind of message, but let me know if there's a better place (or even a chat on WhatsApp or something)
Hey I have a link to a WhatsApp group for Da Nang that has a lot of digital nomads. If you want I can send you the link. Ill be back in February
๐ŸŽ’Hey, I'm considering to buy a new backpack for my next big trip and I would love to know all of your experience and recommendations on the best quality backpack available for for a digital nomad. ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ what ia the best one in your experience?
Sure, that would be great!
I wonโ€™t be here next year though :(
Hey Iโ€™m in Belgrade for the next week, maybe longer ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป
Has anybody ever booked a flight from Asuncion to Montevideo? Paranair requires some tax information that I simply dont have as a european. However the form requires to put in something
I spoke to multiple people offering different solutions, but it depends mainly on your income. Francisco (who liked my previous message, canโ€™t tag him) has more knowledge on this topic.

All I can say is that if you own 100% of the LLC, and providing a service from Portugal, and file taxes as dividends, thereโ€™s risks to it. You know what they say โ€œIf itโ€™s too good to be true, it probably isโ€
Yes, most countries in the world could say this company is actually from their country where you are operating it. Its quite complex and it depends on what youโ€™re trying to achieve. Even consulting lawyers wonโ€™t give you the best solution for you, unless you go with international taxation agencies specialized in those kind of setups
IFICI needs to be proved each year. Mostly any type of research/ teaching or at least board place/ ownership of the startup.
Tax people over there instruct good about the full list and can discuss with you case peculiarities.
my best friend lives there, Aleksa will reach out
Hi everyone! ๐Ÿ‘‹ My girlfriend and I will be visiting Europe next month and will be visiting Amsterdam, Barcelona, and Rome. โœˆ๏ธ๐ŸŒ Two things: do drop your recommendations for any work-friendly cafes โ˜•๐Ÿ’ป and let me know if there are any meetups happening to join ๐Ÿค. Also, it would be great to meet just some people and go around! ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐ŸŒ†
Iโ€™ve had the Minaal carry-on 3.0 and daily 3.0 for about 4-5 years and feel okay about them - the 4.0 versions are coming out soon. I went down a rabbit hole on the current state of bags the past few months. My shortlist now would be Evergoods civic travel bag, Able Carry Max EDC, Rework Gear Toshi or Outbound, and Fyro (brand Aaron from the nomads nation youtube channel started) - probably their Citta 25Lโ€ฆ I just got a Pioneer Carry Panda Pack as a bit of a polar opposite of the Minaal, but I wouldnโ€™t say itโ€™s in any way best for a digital nomad, I just needed one that doesnโ€™t look too out of place when wearing a suit.
Anyone tried Peak Design Travel 45L?
Peak Design for me has been too heavy, and Iโ€™d be worried the 45L would be hitting size limits tooโ€ฆ but Iโ€™m mainly in asia where the 7KG limit is brutal..
dkarabey in #gear 2d
Heyy, Iโ€™ve used the bags below for the first half of this year and never regretted my decision:
1. Forclaz Travel 500 Organizer: 40L, a lot of pockets, really really practically placed. Whomever designed this bag is honestly my hero. I used this as a regular backpack. It fits cabin baggage criteria, never had to hand it down.

Then I also carried this hung in front of me:
2. Rains rolltop backpack: I was traveling to SEA for the first time so I wanted to protect my tech against rain. This bag is super rain-proof, and dries really fast. A lot less pockets but enough to carry basic gear.

Note that I packed very light, like no more than 4-5 outfits. But the combo did serve me well for 5 months.

Best of luck!
Thank you both ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ
Hello everyone, I'm in HCMN and looking for place to stay. But I can't understand price is rising and now not season but city still living like crazy. Do you know why ? I'm curious about it.

Also if you have recommendations for private room stay 15m walking distance around Bui Vien it would be good. What is best way to find good deal?
Vietnam is a booming economy, high growth now so everything will keep getting more expensive

In a decade or so more exp than Europe
Hey - we are a ladies nomad group currently in Prague - anyone here? any recommendations?
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any Weekend Event?
In Rome ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Yep ๐Ÿ™‚
I cannot understand why you would want to stay next to Bui Vien, as someone living here for a year. Bui Vien is the walking/drinking street in TP.HCM and will blast out your eardrums. It is nowhere near the volume levels of the red lights in Bangkok. It's also about as peak tourist area as one can find in the city, so sky high price is to be expected as Vietnam is currently having a huge tourism boom

Prices are still quite reasonable a much farther distance away from D1
shanvy in #china 2d
Where is this?
Anyone will be in Shanghai mid-September? If there are more than 5 people Iโ€™ll organise a meet up
Follow-up: they only can help from da nang unfortunately
paulob in #china 2d
10 mile silver beach. Tbf, cheap rents can be found in many coastal resorts in china
shanvy in #china 2d
This area?
We are same page, I don't wanna stay Bui Vien. I just want to close around because of networking. This is why I mentioned 15 minute walk distance okay for me
Hey anyone going to LLM Mastery in Chiang Mai on the 14+15 november this year?
Hey there!

Any good cafรฉs in Malaga to work for a couple of hours?
Hi! I'm in the process right now! I started on my own a month ago.
Ahhhh a units problem I read it like
m = meters
min = minutes

I'm not sure Vietnam truly has a peak season right now, it's more like peak year. Agoda is usually your friend in this part of Asia. Just don't AirBNB unless you're planning on staying at least 30 days. What is available is just what's available for that part.

If you have some flexibility there is also a rail system under construction, with one line solidly active, and the busses are pretty modern with Vingroup electrifying them. Grab is also quite cheap compared to other locations like Thailand, and significantly less scary speeds with helmets required by law. Significant walking is pretty rare as a primary form of transportation right now, but the city is trying to change that slowly
hey everyone. i am planning to come to uae at the end of august to start meetingi people and get projects there. how is the situation from your point of view? any recommendation?
hey everyone. do you have any recommendation for a coworking place in istanbul?
Hey! Someone in Vienna in the next 3-4 days?
visiting cdmx soon but i dont roller blade
Interesting your renewal offer had a discount.

Also good information that the Thai elite has issues once in hand and trying to use for living.

The DTV makes it easier regarding tax residency for some people as it's remitted income.

What I've been told is keep all receipts and ATM withdrawal receipts and then that final number you pay tax on.

Problem with DTV is what happens in 5 years, will there be another VISA, will reapplication be allowed, will there be a cool off period?
Iโ€™m headed there this weekend as well. DM me if that lines up with youyou
Iโ€™m headed to Portugal for the first time this weekend m. Gonna try to stay for at least 2 weeks to find my next home. Would love to hear recommendations
ivanre in #bali 21h
Yes, I check but I can't see any in bali.
ivanre in #bali 21h
Nice, I check and this is what I was looking for.
ivanre in #bali 21h
Thank you both for answer
dashaa in #bali 21h
you can organize one โ˜๏ธ
Any decent coworking spaces in SP in Paulista/Centro suitable for focus work?

So many to choose from, many pricey, and everyone seems to be a huge hassle some way or another to sign up to and try out ๐Ÿ˜„
gk in #thailand 20h
Bigger problem with DTV is bank account, IMO ๐Ÿ™‚
paulob in #china 19h
Yh. That's right
paulob in #china 19h
Although that video i sent is further to the left, nearer shenzhen
paulob in #china 19h
Have been spending time in a few locations to find permanent base
markus in #vietnam 17h
Itโ€™s low season here in Ho Chi Minh City now.
gato0x in #portugal 14h
Hey, what do you like, where do you like to stay? In the city/nature/close to what?
Happy to help
Hey everyone, looking to stay in Tbilisi for the month of September. Do you guys have any tips for finding a rental for a month, other than on airbnb?
any FB groups or sites someone could point me to?
Hi all, was thinking of walking/cycling along the ocean from Cascais and stopping somewhere towards Guincho tomorrow to see the partial Eclipse around 19.
Anyone ?
hey, airbnb for a month is best bet
or you can do a swap
pxlprxs in #georgia 10h
Will Rustaveli be open again by October?
In oscar freire you can go to BETC Havas Cafe, pretty chill almost empty on weekdays pre lunch
Second floor nobody is there
between $3-5 usd the coffee
If thatโ€™s too pricey, you can go to Teia Coworking Vergueiro instead (itโ€™s inside Centro Cultural Sรฃo Paulo, on the lower floor)
You scan the QR code, register (if you want) and they have the coworking space for free. You can also stay in the library if you want to instead of being inside
hi! I am in Belgrade tonight only before going to liberland tomorrow. Message me if you'd like to meet up.
Random question: Iโ€™m considering getting a second passport mainly for diversification, not for travel.

Given my nationality/lifestyle and how cheap they are, Panama (~5 years) and Paraguay (~3 years) seem like the most interesting options. The main thing for me is that I donโ€™t want to significantly change my lifestyle or spend most of the year in one country. Ideally Iโ€™d maintain the residence properly, keep whatever local ties/assets are needed, visit a few times a year, and still be free to travel.

Iโ€™d consider citizenship-by-investment too if some cheap-as-fuck opportunity came up ๐Ÿ˜…, but Iโ€™m generally not interested in spending hundreds of thousands just for another passport as mine is already very strong (EU)

Has anyone here:
- actually obtained citizenship after ~3 years in Paraguay or ~5 years in Panama?
- done it while spending relatively little time there?
- found any other low-cost, low-physical-presence routes worth considering?

Also curious whether you think pursuing a second passport purely for long-term diversification is actually worthwhile.
Random question: Iโ€™m considering getting a second passport mainly for diversification, not for travel.

Given my nationality/lifestyle and how cheap they are, Panama (~5 years) and Paraguay (~3 years) seem like the most interesting options. The main thing for me is that I donโ€™t want to significantly change my lifestyle or spend most of the year in one country. Ideally Iโ€™d maintain the residence properly, keep whatever local ties/assets are needed, visit a few times a year, and still be free to travel.

Iโ€™d consider citizenship-by-investment too if some cheap-as-fuck opportunity came up ๐Ÿ˜…, but Iโ€™m generally not interested in spending hundreds of thousands just for another passport as mine is already very strong (EU)

Has anyone here:
- actually obtained citizenship after ~3 years in Paraguay or ~5 years in Panama?
- done it while spending relatively little time there?
- found any other low-cost, low-physical-presence routes worth considering?

Also curious whether you think pursuing a second passport purely for long-term diversification is actually worthwhile.
Random question: Iโ€™m considering getting a second passport mainly for diversification, not for travel.

Given my nationality/lifestyle and how cheap they are, Panama (~5 years) and Paraguay (~3 years) seem like the most interesting options. The main thing for me is that I donโ€™t want to significantly change my lifestyle or spend most of the year in one country. Ideally Iโ€™d maintain the residence properly, keep whatever local ties/assets are needed, visit a few times a year, and still be free to travel.

Iโ€™d consider citizenship-by-investment too if some cheap-as-fuck opportunity came up ๐Ÿ˜…, but Iโ€™m generally not interested in spending hundreds of thousands just for another passport as mine is already very strong (EU)

Has anyone here:
- actually obtained citizenship after ~3 years in Paraguay or ~5 years in Panama?
- done it while spending relatively little time there?
- found any other low-cost, low-physical-presence routes worth considering?

Also curious whether you think pursuing a second passport purely for long-term diversification is actually worthwhile.
have you considered an Argentine passport?
feel free to tell me more
The CIP programs in the Caribbean are unbeatable, usually the entry level tiers are "donations", but at a slightly higher tier / willing to lock up ~300-500k of capital in a real estate purchase gets you the passport too

You mentioned you don't want to pay a few hundred k, but you're willing to maintain a residence there - this is how you'd structure it - purchase real estate and hold the property, which I think ties in neatly with what you already stated you were willing to do
Buying real estate in lieu of donation to qualify for CIP is probably the lowest cost approach in terms of haircut to equity you'd take (the RE you're qualified to buy for purposes of CIP is usually overvalued af)
do your research:)
alexsun in #taxes 6h
>>>Also curious whether you think pursuing a second passport purely for long-term diversification is actually worthwhile.

I would say, if you can afford one (either by CBI or by changing your life in a way for few years to meet the criteria) - get one.
agree, two passports are much better than one, three even better
It really depends on your threat model.

If youโ€™re a little bit dodgy and just want to avoid being drafted into a hypothetical war then having any two passports might help.

But if youโ€™re a lot dodgy then maybe itโ€™s hypothetical extradition over serious charges that you want to avoid and so youโ€™ll need two unfriendly countries passports.

But if you just want a second one for fun and to say so, then I hear the brand new libertarian country Verdis will take some money off your hands for one โœจ Any nomads ever seen a Verdis passport?
haha, Verdis is only 80 usd
I already have Panama, actually. Italy has a special treaty/relationship with Panama, so for Italians the route is even easier than the Friendly Nations visa.

All-in, the residency process cost me around $3.5k + two flights. I became a permanent resident on January 14, 2026, and in theory I should be eligible to apply for naturalization 5 years from that date.

What Iโ€™m mainly trying to understand now is how probable citizenship actually is in practice after those 5 years, especially if I maintain the residency/ties properly but donโ€™t spend most of the year living there.

That said, I really like the general idea of doing some annoying legal/admin bullshit early in life and then potentially collecting a passport 5โ€“10 years later ๐Ÿ˜…
Yeah, I already have Panama actually. Italy has a special treaty/relationship with Panama, so for Italians the route is even easier than the Friendly Nations visa.

All-in, the residency process cost me around โ‚ฌ3.5k + two flights. I became a permanent resident on January 14, 2026, and in theory I should be eligible to apply for naturalization 5 years from that date.

What Iโ€™m mainly trying to understand now is how probable citizenship actually is in practice after those 5 years, especially if I maintain the residency/ties properly but donโ€™t spend most of the year there.

On the Caribbean CIPs, I get your point. Iโ€™m just not a huge fan of real estate as an investment in general, especially in countries far away from where I actually live. Iโ€™d rather keep most of my capital in liquid investments than lock $300โ€“500k into a property I probably wouldnโ€™t otherwise buy, especially if the CIP-approved real estate is somewhat overpriced to begin with.

That said, I really like the general idea of doing some annoying legal/admin bullshit early in life and potentially collecting the benefits 5โ€“10 years later but i'm open to new ideas!
Do you want a passport specifically or are you OK with long-term residency?
e.g. Dubai has a pretty nice golden visa program tied to RE investment, and apart from the current conflict with Iran real estate there historically has been a solid investment
You said you didn't want it for travel, so perhaps you'd be amenable to the 20-year visa as a fallback
alexsun in #taxes 5h
bad promt. should ask countries with most enemies and not under sanctions.
From experiences I've heard, it's very difficult to get Paraguay citizenship. It only makes sense as a Plan A.
I have done lots of research on 2nd passport.

It all depends on your goal.

Trying to minimize costs it depends what it's worth to you.

Cambodia has a 2nd home path to citizenship.

Many Chinese "businessmen" do it.
As a Canadian for me it would be all about taxes.
Any website for the event ?
Yes but canโ€™t share links here
Send you dm
Oh great, thanks, seems like amazing options I had not found otherwise! Not at all too pricey for coffee and a place to work
aluther in #spain 2h
Hello, is anyone here in or around San Sebastiรกn?

Iโ€™m visiting soonish and looking for recommendations
hey Frank, may be late but the 200-300k figure isn't in the law anywhere. Worth flagging because it sounds like a rule and it isn't one.

Art. 8.1 of Ley 27/2014 says an entity is resident in Spain if its incorporated under Spanish law, or has its registered office here, or has its sede de direcciรณn efectiva here. That third one is defined right in the article as where the management and control of the whole of its activities sits. Run it from Spain and that's Spain. https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2014-12328

Thats worse than paying personal tax on the profits. A Spanish-resident company files Impuesto sobre Sociedades on worldwide income, with Spanish accounts behind it. More money doesn't change the test. It changes whether real substance somewhere else is affordable

If you're American and end up going autรณnomo, the totalization agreement decides which country's social security you're in. SSAs own guidance says a self-employed US citizen resident in Spain is covered only under Spanish law, so no US self-employment tax, but you're in the autรณnomo system and that's a monthly cost people forget to budget. https://www.ssa.gov/international/Agreement_Pamphlets/spain.html

Beckham is worth asking a Spanish adviser about before you register for anything, since the election window is short. I don't know how it lands for someone self-employed with US clients, so don't take my read on it
Anyone in marbella right now?
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